The Grand Canyon… Billions of Years Old- Or Thousands of Year Old?

How Geologists Date the Grand Canyon

  1. Geologists believe the Grand Canyon was formed by the gradual removal of earth by the Colorado River.
  2. They measure the amount of debris per year that the Colorado River removes from the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
  3. They then use this rate to calculate 70 million years as the time needed to remove the earth down to its present depth.
  4. Scientists call this method of dating “uniformitarian” on the basis that the Colorado River has always removed earth from the Canyon at the same rate.

B. Refutation of Geologists’ “Uniformitarian” Method of Dating the Grand Canyon

  1. Steven Austin, PhD in Geology and chairman of the department of Geology at Creation Research Institute, has researched the 1980 eruption of the Mt. St. Helens volcano and found scientific evidence that refutes geologists’ “Uniformitarian” method of dating the Grand Canyon at 70 million years.
  2. Dr. Austin found that the 1980 eruption of the Mt. St. Helens volcano formed 5 canyons in 5 days. The canyons averaged a depth of about 100 feet, 1/40th the size of the Grand Canyon.
  3. The largest canyon was 125 feet deep, 1,500 feet wide and 3,200 feet long, and was gouged out of solid rock laid down by an ancient lava flow.
  4. The second steam blast leveled a forest of 150 square miles in 6 minutes and deposited 150 feet of land slide and volcanic ash, leaving 65 feet of mud 1/4th of a mile wide.
  5. The volcano explosion caused 600 feet of strata to form in the different canyons, a phenomenon that modern geologists attribute normally to hundreds of millions of years on the basis of “Uniformitarianism.”
  6. Volcanoes also exist on top and around Grand Canyon explaining how eruptions during the last 5,000 years could easily cause much of the depth of the Grand Canyon, plus many of the layers of sediments found in the walls of the canyon.
  7. With the added world-wide catastrophe of the Flood of Noah’s days, the present depth of the Grand Canyon and the multiplied layers of sediment in the canyon walls are easily explained.

C. Geologists’ Claim the Rocks in the Strata of Grand Canyon Vary in Age from 10 Million to 2.6 Billion Years

34 Steven A. Austin, Grand Canyon, Monument to Catastrophe, 1994, p. 88.

35 Mt. St. Helens: Explosive Evidence for Catastrophe Video on site, Institute of Creation Research, 1994.

1. Geologists use the following radiometric methods of dating rocks.

  1. Rubidium-87 has a half-life to 48.8 billion years, decaying into strontium-87.37
  2. Uranium-238 has a half-life of 4.47 billion years, decaying into lead-206, and is “useful for the time period between 100,000 and 1,200,000 years.”
  3. Potassium-40 has a half-life of 1.25 billion years and gradually decays into Argon-40 and Calcium and dates rocks from 20,000 to 4.5 billion years.

2. Geologists used all three of these methods to date the rocks of different strata of Grand Canyon between 10 million and 2.6 billion years.

3. Geologists thus conclude that the dates of the rocks of these strata confirm the 70 million-year process of the formation of the Grand Canyon by removal of strata by the Colorado River.

D. Weaknesses of Radiometric Dating

1. Different dating methods used on rocks in the same (top) strata of the Grand Canyon differ in their dates by 2.59 billion years.

  1. The Potassium/Argon method gave dates between 10 million and 117 million years.
  2. The Rubidium/Strontium method gave varied ages between 1.27 and 1.39 billion years.
  3. The Uranium/Lead method gave an isotope age of 2.6 billion years, 1.26 billion years older than the age indicated by the Rubidium/Strontium method and 2.59 billion years more than the youngest date of the Potassium/Argon method.

Cardenas Bas

2. The rocks in the older (lower) strata (Cardenas Basalt and Diabase Sills) are located one mile below the

Uinkaret Plat

Uinkaret Plateau. These two strata are both Pre-Cambrian (before life appeared on earth).

  1. These Pre-Cambrian rocks dated between 715 million and 1.07 billion years.43
  2. Thus, the top, youngest layer of the Grand Canyon has rocks that are dated older by 130 million to 1.5 billion years than the Pre-Cambrian rocks at the bottom of the Grand Canyon.
  3. Geologists tell us that the lowest or oldest strata must contain the oldest rocks and yet the plateau one mile above the canyon contains the oldest rocks.
  4. These contradictory dates for Grand Canyon rocks demonstrates that radiometric methods are not reliable in dating rocks.

3. Diamonds from Zaire were dated by the potassium/argon method at 6 billion years, a billion years older than the earth is dated, again proving the inadequacy of this radiometric method of dating.

4. 200-year old lava flows in Hawaii were dated by the potassium/argon method at 3 billion years old, 2.9999 billion years more than reality.

5. These enormous differences in radio-active dating demonstrate that the radiometric methods are unreliable

37 Steven A. Austin, Grand Canyon, Monument to Catastrophe, 1994, p. 113.

38 New Encyclopedia Britannica,1991 Ed., 12.196.

39 New Encyclopedia Britannica,1991 Ed., 9.640-1.

40 Steven A. Austin, Grand Canyon, Monument to Catastrophe, 1994, p. 126.




Does Population Growth Support Evolution or Creation?

Population Growth

    1. In 1922 the Earth’s population was estimated at 1,804,187,000.

      1. It has increased exponentially since this time, and quadrupled this number in just 100 years. So because the growth rate has changed since then, we are going to use the 1922 figure to work with.
      2. The Chinese rice board,  Put a penny on the first square and double it for each following squares and by the time we hit the 64 square, we would have more money than we could count.
      3. To arrive at a population of 1,804,187,000. The population starting with 2 people would have to double itself between 30 to 31 times, in fact 30.75, in other words, we were at the 30th square on the rice board, and starting to move to the 31st  in 1922, however by 2022, just one hundred years later we moved to the 34th square.
    2. Let’s use some time numbers at this point and give two reference points as evidence

      1. Using the Bible, along with well-documented historical events, and some math, we find that the Flood began approximately 4,359 years ago in the year 1656 AM or 2348 BC., and (5177 – 6027) years since the ancestors of mankind numbered only two, Noah and his wife according to Hales.
      2. By dividing 5177 by 30.75, we find it requires an average of 168.3 – 196 years (the difference depends on who is calculating the time, but it is very close) for the human race to double its numbers, in order to make the present population. This is a reasonable average length of time.
      3. How can this be verified as an accurate estimate of time and growth
        1. By comparing it to factors than have been observed, and making the comparison. In other words, we can take certain groups of people, check their population growth for the same time period and find the numbers correspond very closely.
        2. Isn’t that the process in Science? To either observe or recreate their hypothesis in order to establish a theory?
        3. Abraham is the father of two peoples
          1. Decedents of Israel (Isaac)
          2. Decedents of Ismael
        4. According to Hales, 3850 years have passed since the marriage of Jacob. By the same method of calculation as above, the Jews, who, according to the Jewish yearbook for 1922, number 15,393, 815, must have doubled their numbers 23.8758 times, (this is very close to our Chinese rice board calculations, just a square or two off) or once every 161.251 years. ( a number twice as high as the original number of 168.3 would have been acceptable as a comparison)
        5. The decedents of Ismael: Also, the 25,000,000 descendants of Abraham must have doubled their numbers every 162.275 years, during the 3,988 years since the birth of his son Ishmael.
        6. Mathematics is an exact science (even though the dates may be a bit off, it would still be very close), even though we have variations due to diseases wars, and etc., we are looking at averages, and when you have three sources to average, and they come out almost identical, we can trust the validity of their results. And based upon these three results I feel we can trust the age of humanity after the flood as stated by Hales.
        7. Evolution according these figures is impossible.
    3. Negative Evidence:

      1. If the human race is 2,000,000 years old, the period of doubling would be 65,040 years, or 402 times that of the Jews, which, of course, is unthinkable.
        1. In other words, to move from one square to the next on our Chinese Rice Board, it would take approximately 65,000 years
          1. Using this rate, humanity would have been impossible, the first 2 people would have two children and then wait another 65,000 years in order to have two more, and the first two children having two, and we thought Methuselah was old at 900 + years. Of course common sense tells us the doubling of the population would have to have occurred very quickly for the human race to survive, which makes matters worse meaning that latter down the rice board the doubling would have to have been much greater than once every 65,000 years.
        2. Evolutionists claim that the human race is 2,000,000 years old.
          1. But let us generously suppose that these remote ancestors, beginning with one pair, (which scientists in 2019 have verified we all came from one man and one woman, but state they may have lived 100,000 years apart… sounds like double talk, anything to reject God) doubled their numbers in 1612.51 years one-tenth as rapidly as the Jews, or 1240 times in 2,000,000 years.
          2. If we raise 2 to the 1240th power, (moving from one square to the next on the Chinese Rice board every 1240 years) the result is 18,932,139,737,991 with 360 figures following. The population of the world, therefore, would have been 18,932,139,737,991 decillion, decillion, decillion. decillion, decillion, decillion, decillion, decillion, decillion, decillion
          3. Or, let us suppose that man, the dominant species, originated from a single pair, only 100,000 years ago, the shortest period suggested by any evolutionist (and much too short for evolution) and that the population doubled in 1612.51 years, one-tenth the Jewish rate of net increase, a most generous estimate. The present population of the globe should be 4,660,210,253,138,204,300 or an additional 2,527,570,733 for every man, woman and child! In these calculations, we have made greater allowances than any self-respecting evolutionist could ask without blushing. And yet withal, it is as clear as the light of day that the ancestors of man could not possibly have lived 2,000,000 or 1,000,000 or 100,000 years ago
          4. If the population had increased at the Jewish rate for 10,000 years, it would be more than two billion times as great as it is. No guess that ever was made, or ever can be made, much in excess of 5177 years, can possibly stand as the age of man. The evolutionist cannot sidestep this argument by a new guess.
Now, if there had been no flood to destroy the human race, then the descendants of Adam, in the 7333 years would have been 16,384 times the 1,804,187,000, or 29,559,799,808,000; or computed at the Jewish rate of net increase for 7333 years since Adam, the population would have been still greater, or 35,184,372,088,832. These calculations are in perfect accord with the Scripture story of the special creation of man, and the destruction of the race by a flood. Had it not been for the flood, the earth could not have sustained the descendants of Adam.
  1. Is not this a demonstration, decisive and final?

Final thoughts

We have more than quadrupled in population in the last 100 years, from under 2 billion to over 8 billion, and we are in line to double and triple again as these numbers are now increasing exponentially, in other words at a faster and faster rate.

Scientist, claim the earth can only feed about 10 billion people (I doubt this) if so then we are running out of time, even if it can feed that many people, just think of how over populated we will be…

Think about the leftist ideologies… they are pushing population reduction, and it started a century ago with people like Margret Sanger and eugenic who wanted/ and preached about how we had to remove what she referred to as “human weeds” namely, the mentally, and physically challenged, and she included anyone who was not white! She preached openly at KKK meetings about removing the black population, and inspired them to commit the evil acts they committed, and she inspired many others to become eugenics including Hitler who murdered 6 million Jews in his effort to cleanse the human race, others including most people of that era, and the leftist of today.

Think about their agenda’s, the push abortion… slows down population growth, homosexuals, they can’t reproduce, transgenderism, they can’t reproduce, sexually mutilating small children, who will then never be able to reproduce….

This explains their attack on Christians, and conservatives because we reject that ideology…

And, it has brought a level of evil upon the world never seen before….

It has brought us into a time when we can truly see all the end-time prophesies being fulfilled before our eyes.

Are you ready for the return of Christ?

Have you attempted, and maybe successfully led anyone else to Christ so they will not suffer eternal damnation?

What is the timeline for the Flood

 




Is it possible that Noah’s Ark could handle all those Animals?

  1. The Ark’s Dimensions

The dimensions of Genesis 6:15 are 300 X 50 X 30 cubits. Most scholars calculate an 18″ cubit, but Moses was raised in the wisdom of the Egyptians and would have likely used the 20.6″ Egyptian cubit (Acts 7:22).

  1. Size of the Ark in cubit feet
    1. Egyptian cubit = 20.6″ = 515′ X 85.83′ X 51.5′ = 2,276,429 cubic feet.
    2. Babylonian cubit = 18″ = 450′ X 75′ X 45′ = 1,518,750 cubic Feet.
    3. Box car (Train) = 2,760 cubic feet:
      = 824.79 box cars (Egyptian cubit).
      = 550.27 box cars (Babylon. cubit).
  2. Animals
    1. 500,000 species of land life.
    2. 498,000 are insects, worms and animals smaller than a sheep.
      1. Box car holds 240 sheep.
      2. Space needed = 10.5 box cars.
    3. 2,000 Are the size of a sheep or larger.
      1. Total size equivalent to 10,000 sheep.
      2. Space needed = 42.5 box cars.
    4. Two of each of above = 106 box cars.
    5. 25% animals are clean = 500 species.
      1. Total size equivalent to 2,500 sheep.
      2. Six pair extra of each = 30,000 sheep.
      3. Box cars needed = 125 box cars.
    6. Total box cars needed = 231 box cars.
  3. Space Left over for Food, Humans and Movement of Animals
    1. Babylonian cubit = 319 box cars.
    2. Egyptian cubit = 594 box cars.
  4. The Dimensions of Noah’s Ark Obviously Had Sufficient Space to House Everything the Bible Mentions



Scientist/ Mathematicians who support Christianity: Dr. Jerry R. Bergman/ Biology

Dr.  Bergman is instructor of science at Northwest State College, Archbold, Ohio. He holds a B.S. In psychology from Wayne State University, and M.S. In psychology from Wayne State University, a PhD in evaluation and research from Wayne State University, and M.A. in  Sociology from Bowling Green State University, and a second PhD in human biology from Columbia Pacific University. At Northwest State College, Dr. Bergman has served as chairman of the Academic Affairs Committee and as faculty adviser for degree programs. He has been a consultant for more than 20 science textbooks.

Almost every person at one time or another asked the question, “where did life come from?” bound up with the answer is the additional question, “what is the purpose of life on Earth?) Essentially 2 viewpoints exist on this question: (1) the atheist position, which concludes that life came about through change, time, and a large number of virtuous events; And (2) the creationist position, which teaches that every living Organism type was created by a creator, which most people call God. Christianity has, since its inception, taught that life was created by God for a specific person purpose. Welcome quote you (guide) clear all things, and because of your will, they existed and were created) (Revelation 4: 11). Likewise, Judaism and Islam have historically taught this creation doctrine (Genesis 1: one- 8).

https://youtu.be/tFbJyF4e1bQ




Through the Bible with Jim Carmichael: Introduction

Welcome to the Beggs Church of Christ….

Well, here we are February 4th 2022 and we are finally re-opening the Beggs Church of Christ on the Sunday, the 5th.

The plan is to go through the bible, verse by verse, determining what the Bible really says, by examining the original words and their meanings.

Studying the word in the context of which it is being presented….

And, examining an extra-biblical facts that support the truth of the Bible.

However, the first lesson will merely be an explanation of why we are pursuing this line of study… so I hope you will either join us on Sunday mornings, 11am – 12pm

https://youtu.be/C7GX30ArhI8




The Round-Table Discussion at Dick Conners Correctional Center

Listen in on the discussion of our “inside” brothers in Christ.




Prison Report for 2022

Just a quick note, one of the reasons I don’t like giving these reports is that I might forget to mention someone, and everyone involved is very important to the ministry… If I left you out, please forgive me.

 

Prison Report for January 2023Jim Carmichael

On May 16th 2022 Kevin Peters went on the “inside” with me by special permission of the Warden to make video’s of interviews of some of the prisoners, and a round-table discussion by the same group of men.

On the following evening on the 17th we recorded the evening service. It is still “on-line” if you haven’t viewed it yet.

We also had an appreciate dinner that went exceedingly well.

Jim P still works as a volunteer preaching two times a month at DCCC and waiting to go back into the Tulsa County Jail when allowed.  As we all know this has been very limited due to the Covid-19 lock-down in both the prison and jail systems.  The county jail remains on lock-down due to the constant flow of people in and out, however the prisons were reopened to volunteers around August.

Ray Vaughn is working as an assistant Chaplain for the Tulsa County Jail.

We have two men the Park COC is supporting in their Christian Education, and we now have them preaching on the two Tuesday evenings on the medium side with us (Jim P and I) overseeing.  This is to give them practical experience in preparing and delivering sermons.

When we (Jody and I) took over the prison ministry in January of 2021 we had about 175 men and women in our database taking our courses.  We now have close to 1,200.

We have app 70% of the current population at Eddie Warriors Correctional Center taking our courses. And, Jody and I now deliver 50 courses a week to EWCC in person which saves the ministry app $200 a week in postage, plus another 70 inmates at DCCC taking our courses with all the work and grading performed in-house.

At DCCC currently we are teaching two classes, one on Monday morning covering Revelation, and the other Monday afternoon is 24 hours (weeks in this case) through the bible.

We now have 30 wonderful, hard-working volunteers (up from 15 last year) who come to the church building on Weds and Thurs every week in order to help us grade lessons.

In the year 2022 these volunteers graded app 55,000 lessons.

We occasionally have a need for our home graders, and they include Dave Huey, Ray, and Suzanne Vaughn, Waymon and Diane Honeycutt, Fran Thomas, Jim Pinkston, Elaine Russell, Mike and Theresa Hawkins, Caroline Kusler, Linda Brown, Mike and Bunny Williams, Wayne and Pam Pope.

At Dick Conner’s Correctional Center in Hominy OK, we have started a very aggressive evangelistic program, reaching out to every man incarcerated encouraging them to take our courses… with men in each pod who have committed their lives to Christ to be our inside contact, and inside evangelists.

In my last report I mentioned one man, Andrew Williams is handling all our courses for us there, distributing them, receiving, and grading them, and letting us know who needs to receive a certificate.

Andrew is still working in this capacity with the help of Justin Moss.

Andrew is one of 6 chapel orderlies, of whom most have received their bachelor’s degrees, and with the help of the benevolence ministry and at the direction of Clark Lineback, we are sponsoring a few of these men to achieve advanced degrees in ministry.

All are training to be inside evangelists, with an eye on the future. When they return to their homes, they will be “street evangelists” to their neighbors, friends, and family, with some becoming preachers in local churches.

The Angel Tree Project is doing very well

Last year I stated a need to receive your input on another idea I had in starting a family outreach program,

Thank you for responding and I am happy to report the Family Engagement Project has now reached out to app 35 families in the Tulsa area, a couple in OKC, and a couple in both Kansas and Illinois.

Jody and I are not allowed by DOC rules to reach out to any family or friend so we always need volunteers for these positions.

And the following people are what we hope is just the beginning, and they include Janet Swopes, and Pam Sharit from the Okmulgee COC who are calling on the ladies, and Ken Wiley and Ray Vaughn are calling on the men, with Tim Lynn working as our needs assessment volunteer.

Another new ministry instigated by the Chaplain at Dick Conners, which we might extend to other facilities is the Cell to Cell ministry.

They literally go to each cell in certain Pods and speak directly to the men, giving advice, praying with them and inviting them to come to our services and taking our classes either in person or correspondence.

Jim Pinkston and Mike Hawkins are now working in this ministry, and I went with Mike Hawkins on the 3rd, and it was a great blessing.

In this coming year we are starting up a new ministry within the prison ministry… the Children’s Engagement Project.

We will be reaching out to the congregation for volunteers to go into youth detention centers, and orphanages ….

This all works hand in glove with Prison reform… the best time to reform an inmate is before they become one.

We still need help in the following areas…

  • People who would be willing to go on the “inside” with me to preach or teach classes.
    • Our long-term goal is to have men and women in every prison in Northeast Oklahoma teaching New Life Behavior, and Apologetic classes.
  • People who will help with our family outreach program.
  • People who could help create new courses of study for inmates.
    • If any of you have course already prepared, we would love to add them to the list of courses we are offering.
    • Or, if you are willing to develop courses of study, that would also be great
    • Normally the courses consist of 12 – 13 lessons, and we have one that includes 24, and some that include only 5 lessons…. All is good.
  • People who can and are willing to help finance all the above.
    • We already have a number of contributors and as the ministry grows, as you know so will the financial needs grow.

And, finally, a special thanks to Tim Maynard, who has been a great source of inspiration, information, and guidance to me as we move forward in the prison ministry.

And a special acknowledgement of those not mentioned earlier in the report whose support of the prison ministry is awesome.

Don Millican

Phil Smith

Ken Williams

Gary Medley

Dave Huey, (our new Deacon)

Tim Lynn

Additional Information

Luke 4:18 “The Spirit of the Lord is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives

And recovery of sight to the blind,

To set at liberty those who are oppressed;

Matthew 18:12 “What do you think? If a man has a hundred sheep, and one of them goes astray, does he not leave the ninety-nine and go to the mountains to seek the one that is straying?

This is the purpose of the Park Prison Ministry…. To restore sight to the blind… you must have had sight for it to be restored…

Many of these men (and Women) have been raised in the church.

I recently had 8 men sitting with me in the prison and I asked how many had been raised with a Christian foundation, (raised in the church) … the answer was all of them, and two of them were preachers kids.

These are the men who once had sight, were blinded by the evil of the world, and now incarcerated are having their sight restored… they are the “1” who Christ left the “99” for, so I thank each one of you for your kind hearts, and willingness to send us to the “1” who was lost….

As you know my focus is teaching Christian Apologetics in the prison system, (and to anyone who will listen to me.)

The Pew Research Center studied the effects of higher education on church raised children a few years ago and found that 50% of children raised in the Church, lost their faith while in college at the hands of a lost professor.

Prison Report for January 2022

 

 

One of the major reasons people go astray is because they do not know how to defend their belief… not to others… nor to themselves…

Therefore, I have a passion for Apologetic training… so everyone can know why we can trust the reliability of Scripture to be the truth, and our guiding light for the narrow path.

So, this is the reason for my passion to teach prisoners why they can believe, and my desire that we reach out to the children, teaching them early on how they can know all the “Bible Stories” are actually Historical Accounts recorded in the Bible, to arm them against false teachers, helping them stay on the path, and not end up in Dick Conner’s, or some other prison before they learn the truth.

Therefore I consider people like Danielle Schrock, Michelle, Kenna, and Brooklyn who work so hard with the children as an extremely important part of the prison ministry, for they are the people who have the best opportunity to accomplish this.

In a sense they are part of the prison ministry, not only because of their work with Angel Tree, and Prison Fellowship, but they are arming our children with the facts they need to give them that galvanized faith through knowledge they will need in their future to keep them on that narrow path that leads to life.

 

 

 




HOW OLD IS THE EARTH




PERFECT response to a Muslim

I have in the past had conversations with Muslims in the prison system, and currently have one man studying “Through the Bible in 24 Hours” with us and apparently the main objection of the Muslim faith is that God cannot be both infinite and finite at the same time.

The interesting thing about this man who is originally from Iran is that is father is a Muslim, but his mother is a Christian. I think this is what opened him up to the possibility that Christianity is the correct answer to life.

I also think this kept him from being so adamant about Muslims being against Christianity. (I readily admit, there is nothing that could change me from being a Christian, so I understand completely how a Muslim could feel the same about their faith) this is the problem, both can’t be true, it is either one… or the other!

This is where Christian Apologetic comes into the picture, giving overwhelming evidence that Jesus is God in the Flesh.

He goes by the name “Eddie” simply because most people cannot pronounce his real name. He shared with me an interesting fact I had never heard before, Muslims love Christ, and believe He was of a virgin birth.

What is incredible is the inability to believe He was of a virgin birth, but can’t believe He is the Son of God… if He wasn’t, then who fathered the child?

So, I would just like to share a video with you from youtube that helps explain a few things, including the existence of the trinity, even though the term is not used in the bible.




The Full Video of the May 17th 2022 service at Dick Conners